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Old 07-16-2008, 11:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
Gerry
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Re: [MT_E and I] EA's to list on a group Black List

Hi Charles,
I replied yesterday but somehow my email never made it to the group
site........
Hi Charles,
Yes I am a Moderator/owner one of 4 of us, it seems I am the only
one still moderating though.
I'm at least 14 hours out of sync with the members in the US.

Any member can create a folder and a header name, & upload their
experts or indicators etc.

I have created a folder in the files section called Black Listed
Commercial Experts, I hope this format is suitable if not feel free
to edit it.

People can start a file under the folder header and name the file
after the Expert name in question, in the files contents which are
uploaded they could use a simple text file like "notepad" to explain
the what's, why's and wherefore's about the product.

I know people might be a little upset when they create this file, I
know I would be if I paid good money to have my account trashed by
an "expert". I guess we need to temper this with an honest appraisal
of what others are likely to experience if they tread the same path.

We are a private group not a public one, so I think (hope) we cannot
be held legally liaible for private opinions expressed within our own
private group.

Gerry











--- In MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators (A...oups (DOT) com, "Charles
Wilkes" <cfw123@...> wrote:
>
> Wow -- lots of you out there really agree on the necessity of a

black list
> -- we've all been burned too many times.
>
> I really want the Black List to be implemented right to make it

very easy to
> add to, and especially to consult before buying anything. I

really don't
> have the knowledge to do this in other than a crude way. Is there

any
> expert out there to insure that it is done right the first time?

I've been
> a user and creator of many yahoogroups over the years, but I don't

recall
> seeing anything similar to what we really need here done anywhere

else --
> else I would just copy it as I hate to invent anything new when

there was
> already a satisfactory solution already in existence.
>
> One thing I see as important. Obviously producers of for-sale EAs

and
> other Forex systems won't like this, and will try to stop it. And

I don't
> want any of them to try and sue or even threaten to sue anybody for

libel
> somehow. So I think contributions should be by people who bought

the
> product, and feel burned by it, and want to give their professional

opinion
> on it which is their constitutional right to do under our free

speech laws.
> A contributor should not be the producer of a competitive product

trying to
> bad mouth their competition either directly or through a fake shill
> either. I've seen that on Forex Bastards, aka Forex Peace Army

these days.
>
> So let's do this right the first time, with the right set of

guidelines for
> contributors to both protect them, and to make it worth while for

the rest
> of us to use.
>
> And maybe to be perfectly fair and balanced, we need a matching

White List
> to include items reported by users which were good, rather than

bad. Maybe
> there won't be too many, but why not have it planned for.
>
> Charles Wilkes
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Red Baron <
> public_enemy_nummer_uno@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi, All
> >
> > I say, MAKE SURE YOUR EA DO THE RIGHT THING...!!!
> > well scam is everywhere, even ANYWHERE.
> > and sometime we were just right "go ahead" jump on it.
> > even if they give it to you.
> > AGREE.. MAKE THE BLACK LIST
> > especially for commercial profit taker scam bag money back

guarantee EA
> >
> > baron
> >
> > --- On *Tue, 7/15/08, Smoky <smokyatgroups@...>* wrote:
> >
> > From: Smoky <smokyatgroups@...>
> > Subject: Re: [MT_E and I] EA's to list on a group Black List
> > To: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators (A...oups (DOT) com
> > Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:38 PM
> >
> >
> > Hi Charles,
> > Yes let me know if I can help with this, I shall.
> > GL & GT Gerry
> >
> > *-------Original Message----- --*
> >
> > *From:* Charles Wilkes <cfw123@...>
> > *Date:* 16/07/2008 9:15:28 AM
> > *To:* MetaTrader_Experts_ and_Indicators@ yahoogroups.

com<MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
> > *Subject:* Re: [MT_E and I] EA's to list on a group Black List
> >
> > If enough other's agree, maybe we can get our moderator to set

up a Black
> > List (fraudulent EAs) in our files section, to which we can all

contribute
> > our "disappointments" with EAs we have bought and paid for.
> >
> > Charles Wilkes
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:43 PM, T K <teknapp (AT) hotmail (DOT)

com<teknapp@...>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Charles:
> >
> > I think that is a great idea. It would help everyone in the

group. There
> > is already so much to learn and process, we don't need to waste

time sorting
> > out the fraud, too.
> >
> > TEK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > aTrader_Experts_ and_Indicators@ yahoogroups.

com<aTrader_Experts_and_Indicators (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
> > From: cfw123 (AT) gmail (DOT) com <cfw123@...>
> > Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:35:23 -0700
> >
> > Subject: Re: [MT_E and I] EA's for review-DOUBLE PLAY.
> >
> >
> > This is another one I bought only to find it quickly loses all

the
> > capital funds in your account (demo for me of course). I

contacted their
> > support three times, but it was totally wasted to even bother.
> >
> > I think we need a black list of EA frauds perpetrated upon

unsuspecting
> > people who fall for slick marketing (like unfortunately I did).

It could be
> > in our files section.
> >
> > Charles Wilkes
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Jacob Ade <jacobade (AT) yahoo (DOT)

com<jacobade@...>>
> > wrote:
> > Forex Auto pilot is a mish mash of EAs and they all lose

money on demo
> > acct, dont be fooled by the slick marketing
> >
> > --- On *Tue, 15/7/08, Miguel Contreras <mpcontreras@

yahoo.com<mpcontreras@...>
> > >* wrote:

> > From: Miguel Contreras <mpcontreras@ yahoo.com <mpcontreras@...>>
> > Subject: Re: [MT_E and I] EA's for review-DOUBLE PLAY.
> > To: MetaTrader_Experts_ and_Indicators@ yahoogroups.

com<MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
> > Date: Tuesday, 15 July, 2008, 8:12 PM
> >
> > Don't bother testing Doubleplay. I did it.
> > For sure you'll lose a lot of money.
> >
> >
> > --- On *Tue, 7/15/08, goldom <goldom (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>* wrote:
> >
> > From: goldom <goldom (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
> > Subject: [MT_E and I] EA's for review
> > To: MetaTrader_Experts_ and_Indicators@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 8:36 AM
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > How about Phoenix EA? It's free. PipBoxer. Forex Killer.

PointBreak.
> > Fractal Wizard. Shark.
> > Griffin. DoublePlay. Forex AutoPilot.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > George
> >
> >
> >
> >
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