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Old 07-25-2008, 03:42 AM   #10 (permalink)
Charles Wilkes
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Re: [MT_E and I] Re: Queston re MT4 -- can it run on a Mac? PC-DOS rules..............

This one gave me a good laugh -- thanks for it. And I assume the "slacker"
is none other than Steve "the" Jobs. And I don't like negative advs
either,
but Steve-o isn't the creative one at Apple, and never was -- just an
incredible
salesman. I have to give the creative ones great applause, and even also
to
their managers who had the good sense to just get out of their way and let
then do what they wanted -- and never what the marketing people wanted.

I can't tell you the many "mouse" conversations we had inside IBM during
those years. But thankfully the "bad" ones lost.

Charles

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Ronald <Ecommedi (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

> I remember the old days when anyone who used a mouse was considered
> less than a man because they were not manly enough to run DOS based
> machines. I caved in after DOS 6.0 expolited the mouse with their hokey
> shells. Apple was not the only sissy O/S as Windows 3.1 was rearing its'
> ugly head back then too.
>
> Good post Charles. Apple does seem to have a lot going for it although I
> won't consider buying one until they replace the slacker in their Apple
> versus MS commercials with someone dressed for
> success...................................
>
> Ronald ( MrCsonka )
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Charles Wilkes <cfw123 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:03 PM
> *Subject:* [MT_E and I] Re: Queston re MT4 -- can it run on a Mac?
>
> Thanks to everyone who has been of such help to me in finding a way to
> run MT4 on my new IMac. After studying the professional version of Wine
> from CodeWeavers which they now call CrossOver, I have ordered it based on
> their report that it does work, and have also ordered a CD to be sent to me
> with it for a cost of $69.95 plus $10.00 for the CD, and the cost of
> shipping via DHL. Their report showed:
> MetaTrader 4<http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=2157>
> Metaquotes Honorable Mention
> reporting that it has been tested, and does work. It was also given a
> Silver medal in advocacy rank, but don't know what all that means. Since
> it can be returned with I think 60 days if it doesn't work in my
> application, I will test it thoroughly, and report back here what I was able
> to discover.
>
> Since I am retired from IBM Research after having spent years in promoting
> and supporting the IBM PC from it's earliest days (I even spent six years in
> Paris getting the then new IBM PC announced in Europe), you may wonder why I
> am now converting to a Mac. First of all, IBM sold it's PC business to
> Lenovo in China, and is no longer in the Personal Computer business. Even
> the operating systems developed by IBM -- PC Dos, and OS2 for the PC, are no
> longer IBM products, with DOS turned over to Microsoft as MS-DOS, and OS2
> being effectively abandoned long ago.
>
> Certainly the early Macs were not very good, but with the adoption of the
> Intel dual core processors for all new Macs, this machine suddenly came
> alive -- in my eyes anyway. And then Microsoft hasn't done so well with PC
> operating systems either, although while Vista is a space and performance
> hog, with the latest PC hardware, I do like it, and have used it since first
> availability. But the Mac performs much better, which is understandable
> since Apple has designed both their hardware and software together with full
> integration only possible when both are done by the same company. In the
> PC world, Microsoft does the operating system and many hardware
> manufacturers do the hardware, with obviously little coordination between
> them.
>
> When my son brought his MacBookPro with him on his latest visit on the
> occasion of my 82nd birthday (he lives in Norfolk, VA and I live in San
> Jose, CA), he was able to show me how much better his computer ran compared
> to my Vista Ultimate running on the fastest PC I could buy not long
> earlier. The wait times I endure compared with the apparently
> instantaneous responses he was getting really turned me around. So when be
> bought me an IMAC on the way to the airport for his return, I was really
> turned on to the Mac, and decided to see if I could make it the workhorse of
> my computing activities -- at least in my home, as my Mac is not a laptop.
>
>
> I could run PC code on my Mac several ways, including dual boot
> and emulation, but wanted to run my key PC programs unobtainable in true Mac
> code, and certainly don't want to have to reboot every time I change from a
> PC application to a Mac application -- which in my case looks like it will
> be everything I do on true Mac applications (mostly email and word
> processing), with only MT4 running PC code. So with help from members of
> this group, I was able to discover Wine from CodeWeavers which allows me to
> execute some PC code at least including as I show above MT4 as a true Mac
> application not running under any PC operating system.
>
> Incidentally my IMac was upgraded in the store it was bought from (Fry's
> Electronics) to increase main memory from 2 GB to 4 GB. The IMac has all
> the computer itself mounted in the back side of a 20 inch monitor, so the
> only wires are to the keyboard (into which the mouse is plugged like it
> should have been done on PCs), and in my case to an external 400 GB ESATA
> hard drive for backups, and a 2nd monitor which is a 19" Viewsonic which I
> like to use while trading Forex.
>
> Charles Wilkes
>
>
>
>
> Sun Tzu said:
> When torrential water tosses boulders, it is because of its momentum.
> When the strike of a hawk breaks the body of its prey, it is because of
> timing.
>
>
>
>




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